Wednesday, May 20, 2015

WOC vs. Black Women

Thoughts on the fallacy of solidarity & the erasure of black women


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An observed pattern about the reception of the film Girlhood when it was released in the U.S a few months ago: three think pieces on the film, which focuses on the lives of four dark-skinned black French girls living in a housing project in the Parisian banlieue, written by non-black women of color for three prominent websites: The Hairpin, BuzzFeed, and Jezebel.

The director of Girlhood, Céline Sciamma, has admitted in interviews that the film isn’t really about being a black girl in France.  My review of the film argued that it failed to be about black girlhood for a very simple reason: Sciamma didn’t have the experience, the imagination, the vision and empathy necessary to represent this girlhood in its complexity. If the film were a radical exploration of black French girlhood in the banlieue, watching it would have been a novel, disturbing and alienating experience.  Consequently, it wouldn't have been so easy for non-black women to seize the narrative of the film to talk about themselves.

Why did these writers herald the film as a site of progressive representation of blackness despite Céline Sciamma's illuminating statements, despite the film itself and above all despite the criticisms of the film made by black French girls? Why did they keep praising the film after Céline Sciamma said that it was a traditional coming-of-age story, using alarming words like “universality,” confirming black French girls contextualized suspicion that this was just another white interpretation of the black suburban experience in France? Why was the spectatorship of non-black women of color centered instead of that of black women?  What lead to this  usurpation?

The truth is that the film, being uncurious and vague about the black bodies and the suburban space it is looking at, was the fertile ground for the kind of appropriative, corny and self-indulgent pieces that were written about it by non-black women of color. The film used and decontextualized black, suburban French bodies to make a boring and botched statement on the universality of girlhood and these writers used and decontextualized a film that used and decontextualized black French bodies to make their own points about “brown girl exclusivity, black female friendships or the importance of representation.

This specific lane swerving is not an isolated case but it was the first time that I seriously started asking myself questions about the meaning of solidarity between black women and non-black women of color.  How does solidarity serve black women? How does this solidarity manifest itself concretely in the world?
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I’ve been fascinated by the totalitarian way these writers say “brown” as an alternative for “POC” and “Black.” To me, the systematic use of this word is how their subconscious desire to erase blackness expresses itself within their language. What does this brown identity mean to a Black woman? I have personally no desire to be described or self-identify as brown. Brown is abstract, it doesn't feel inclusive and it is not. Brown is a euphemism. Why should I accept and bow down to an identity that doesn’t describe or acknowledge my reality? I am Black. Black is specific. Black centers me. All identities are performative but claiming “brown” would be like wearing a piece of cloth that was definitely not designed for me. And that piece of cloth would likely be a cloak of invisibility. It feels more like a trap than an identity to me but, I can see why Black people might find this identity desirable.  It temporarily relieves you from the burden of blackness.  

Indeed, why would Black women embrace WOC solidarity if that means being thrown under the bus and being violently erased in its name? What are the benefits? There are probably a select few black women who enable that appropriation (editors, friends etc.), and who are profiting off of this situation. What else? Universalism and colorblindness can be comforting ideas. They say: we are all the same, we all share the same struggles. I am you and you are me. I can therefore talk about you because I am also talking about me. And therefore Black women are not different. We can deny for a small moment that we are not the abject and deviant bodies society tells us we are. We are just like everyone else! That is not true. Not every woman of color has had their body exposed, hypersexualized and then dismembered after death to be shown in a museum for decades. Not every woman of color is subjected to police brutality the way black women are. Not every woman of color is being made fun of, caricatured, shamed and stigmatized the way black women are. No one experiences the trials and woes of black womanhood except black women. No one wants their body to experience that. So why would you be entitled to it if you’re not a black woman?

The black experience is not universal. Black girlhood is not universal. A specific kind of racism and misogyny inform our experience. While it is true that people of color share the experience of marginalization, black women are on the periphery of the margins. The singularity of our experiences makes it almost impossible to appropriate them without diluting them, narrowing them, erasing them. Something that I have been confronting is that being a black girl, in the West, is very lonely. Being a French black girl in the suburbs of a major city is painfully lonely. Loneliness characterizes the human condition but it seems that black women are made to be conscious of this truth sooner than everyone else.


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Two cathartic moments which made me decide to write this piece:
Azealia Banks’ tears when she talked about Iggy Azalea's “cultural smudging” on HOT 97 have been haunting me ever since I have watched that video. Here was a young black woman, who has been derided, ridiculed, labeled as crazy/angry, being vulnerable and voicing her feelings about an issue that obviously hurt her. She was saying out loud, in a way that felt uncensored and free, what a lot of black women have felt for a long time.

Then there was this series of tweets by Sara Bivigou. Sara stated succinctly how I and other black women had been feeling about the myth of WOC solidarity for quite some time. What struck me again, was the sudden and public expression of anger and disbelief by another black woman. Before these tweets, these conversations I and other black women from different parts of the world had on this subject were contained in group DMs, rage emails or subtweets. And I thought about the private aspect of these discussions, the fact that we couldn't state clearly and publicly how we felt about solidarity between black women and non-black women of color. I realized that we wouldn't speak out loud because we were scared. We've seen other black women being labeled as “toxic” for voicing their opinions on similar issues: the stealing of their work they deal with regularly and the hypocrisy of solidarity in activist and academic spaces.

By writing this piece I wanted our conversations to come out of their forced confinement. I am tired of whispering and self-censorship. I’m tired of being passive. I’m tired of containing words that should be released. I have nothing to lose.


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Appropriation of blackness has been documented. We’ve seen it in music (Iggy Azalea, Macklemore, Diplo, Miley Cyrus, Eminem). We see it in terrifying and metaphysical ways with the Kardashian & Jenner clan. We see it in film (Tarantino). We observe it it in academia and in the fashion industry. However, in cultural writing spaces, because it is more abstract and therefore more difficult to chart, because what’s happening in this realm is appropriation on an existential level, it is rarely discussed.  Anachronistic, contrived and manipulative concepts such as "POC solidarity” make it harder to denounce the appropriation of blackness happening in non-black POC communities. It is easier to point the finger at white appropriators like the ones cited above than to call out brown cultural writers like Durga Chew-Bose, Fariha Roisin or Ayesha Siddiqi because what they do is always wrapped in good intentions, always hidden behind faux-semblants of unity and solidarity.
It’s easier to denounce Iggy Azalea than, say, Heems for instance. But really, what’s the difference?
Heems is a revealing case, a cautionary tale. As my friend Alesia pointed out, Heems, in various interviews, consistently uses his brown working-class background to justify his presence in hip-hop. The same Heems who arrogantly defended his right to use the n-word and aggressively shut down black women who called him out on it.

It is not solidarity which drives brown writers and non black entertainers like Heems or M.I.A. to usurp black experiences, expressions, narratives arts, icons, identities or cultures. As Alesia said, it is antiblackness, as a structure, as an institution and a pervasive, global force which enables and naturalizes this entitlement, that make them believe it is right and natural to appropriate black identity and experience.

Social media has exacerbated the idea that blackness is common property, a public good that must be shared and consumed by everyone. A public good to be profited off of unless you're actually black. Black people shouldn't own anything. Nothing belongs to us not even what we produce and invent. Not even our experience, our existence. Everything ours is yours (is there even such as thing as “ours”?). Blackness is constantly flied over by vultures, under threat of being decomposed, consumed and annihilated. When we do claim ownership, we are told we are venal, greedy. When we refuse this looting of our identity, experience and culture we are selfish and capricious.
Well, I am refusing.  I am claiming my experience as mine. I am asking for black women to claim their experiences as their own. In an antiblack and misogynistic context there isn’t such a thing as being a capricious or territorial black woman. Our experience is the territory on which we should be sovereign. The loneliness that comes with being a black woman and the apathy the rest of the world has for our existence make us the only witnesses to our lives and it should afford us the right to be the only authorities on our experiences.

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If these writers and serial lane swervers limited their thoughts on Girlhood, Kanye West, Pam Grier,  Issa Rae or black beauty  to a few Tumblr text posts, this would (almost) be a non-issue. But they are most certainly paid (or trying to get paid) to write on these various black subjects. They accumulate capital off of the back of black people. Doesn't this sound boringly familiar? They get the money and the social recognition they are craving for as women of color writers by speaking over black women. Meanwhile, black women, from whom we expect so much labor, who are simultaneously ostracized and asked to exist for everyone but themselves, are rarely paid and recognized, even symbolically.
Being a black woman in the West is laborious. Existing as a black woman is laborious. If we are not being paid for it, can we at least be allowed to claim this particular labor as our own? Apparently not.


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Why wouldn’t black women talk about how “WOC solidarity” makes them feel uncomfortable? Fear. Inevitable backlash, but also: loneliness. If even non-black WOC are against us (whether this is intentional or not, is no longer the question), then we are alone. We only have ourselves. And then of course there is the stereotype threat, the backlash. What do they call us when we dare to speak and challenge the status quo? Toxic. Aggressive, angry, paranoid, hostile, bitter.
I am not afraid of sounding paranoid, hostile, angry, enraged or even cynical. Paranoia, anger, hostility I’d actually use the word oppositionality and cynicism have been good tools to analyze and notice patterns, to come to conclusions, to make sense of this extremely absurd world I live in.
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Are we supposed to feel grateful or flattered?
I only feel despair and disgust.
We are reduced to passive spectators whose voices are despoiled, asked to applaud and watch brown writers patting themselves on the back for pretending to care about black women’s humanity. Do they have any idea of what it looks like from where the rest of us stand? Maybe they believe that they are extending a hand. The intended results might be solidarity and inclusivity, and it might be within the small and self-absorbed writing bubbles these writers navigate in, but it produces quite the opposite: exclusion not exclusivity.  

There is a dearth of published and paid black writers. There aren't enough spaces given to black film, art, music critics for you to think that you can speak over us and center yourself on issues that specifically concern black people.

Black women should have been paid to write on Girlhood. In France, thanks to institutional and constitutional colorblind ideology, most of the reviews were written by white men. In the U.S., thanks to WOC colorblindness and solidarity, most of the acclaimed and shared reviews written for so-called inclusive spaces were written by non-black women of color.  
(Ironically, one of the only good and necessary reviews of the film written for a mainstream American publication was written by Richard Brody, a white man, for the New Yorker.)

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Writing as a black woman is hard. We feel like what we have to say, especially when it’s not wrapped in solidarity or brown girl colorblindness rhetoric i.e. when we radically center black women and write for black women, will not be heard. Our words, our voices are not valued. Like a lot of writers, we struggle with self-doubt, anxiety, mental illness. But don’t get us wrong, writing is hard, but it’s not impossible for us. We can write, we have the imagination, the sensitivity, the intellectual capacities to do so. We can write and we are writing despite erasure, despite the devaluation, despite being mischaracterized and threatened by stereotypes. We deal with censorship in so many ways. WOC colorblindness has subtly become one of them.

Personally, I don’t want anything to do with the system you’re proposing because it is based on and reproduces inequality.  I don’t want to be part of the select few fetishized black writers who are allowed in this system if that means ostracizing other black women writers and censoring them for a career. I do not want to invest energy and affects in “solidarity” if it is doomed to fail black women.

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I do not care about the pictures of black celebrities plastered all over your blog. I do not care about your Rihanna and Kanye West worshipping.   I don’t care about your black friends. More than anything, I do not care about your compulsive James Baldwin, Audre Lorde, Claudia Rankine and bell hooks quoting. It doesn’t signify anything. It doesn’t demonstrate that you have challenged your antiblackness. Fetishization is not love, it’s not respect.  Turning black people into figurines and objects that you can use, and throw away as soon as you are done with them is not appreciation.
Here is what I want: instead of jumping on any opportunity to voice your “enthusiasm” for everything black, you should study the weird, neurotic, utilitarian relationship you have with blackness. You can take the Kardashians with you. Until then, until you do this introspective and analytical work, until you decolonize your idea and practice of solidarity, I’d very much like for you to stay away from us.


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Thanks to Derica, Alesia, Fatima and Sara for the feedback, editing and love.

14 comments:

  1. This very post was everything that I had been looking for and everything that had been bottled up in me. As a Black woman born and living in America, when I heard about "Girlhood" I felt very ambivalent about whether or not I should watch it. I could not find any reviews about the film by black French women--my elementary (though progressing) understanding of the language made it even more difficult to find--therefore I did not believe the film would deliver anything; it would just be an outsider creating work for other outsiders. This pushed me to reach out to black French women via email, twitter, tumblr, to get an understanding of their opinions (what a great tool the Internet is). I needed some sort of opinion crafted by a woman who actually exists in those spaces being appropriated and fetishized to guide me through the inauthenticities (or even authenticities) of the film or else it would be the blind leading the blind. Media is powerful, and while we should not base our opinions of actual people on fictional work, I did not want my first glance into art/life of black French women to be crafted by a white or non-black woman. So, all of that to say thank you for your review and thank you for discussing that in this piece. I'd also love to talk to you about the black American media that praised the film (but that's part of a whooole other study I'm doing.)

    This piece you wrote is also very affirming for me because I was dealing with conflicts about POC solidarity and ally-ship in general as a black woman. I wanted to create an organization on campus that was exclusive to black women. I felt like I was always having to split my race and gender up when it came to activist/artistic/professional organizations on campus. It was draining, it was frustrating, and it was lonely because as a black woman I find that my race and my gender are not mutually exclusive; one informs the other. But I was afraid to express this desire for an exclusively hub for black women--even to my black female friends--for fear of being labeled prejudiced. But like you said, we've been allies to literally every marginalized group. From gay rights, to equal pay, to gender equality, to civil rights we've been on the front-lines laying down our lives and we don't get the recognition or the protection we deserve. So why not be our own allies? No one is going to stand up for the black woman, so we might as well take our ally-ship and apply it to one another across the diaspora instead of to these groups that express anti-blackness and misogynoir.

    As black women we exist in a complex labyrinth of race and gender where neither label is mutually exclusive, but is mutually inclusive. We experience anti-blackness and white-supremacist oppression from our the non-black gender-mates and we experience anti-blackness, misogyny, misogynoir, and white-supremacist oppression from members who share our race. No one else lives in such extreme and complex dichotomies, so for these very reasons, as you said, POC solidarity is an erasure of our struggle, of our experience, of our pain especially when these non-black groups are riddled with and profit from their deeply rooted anti-blackness.

    Thank you for writing. I know it is one of the most difficult and taxing activities, but I want you to know someone head you, someone is standing with you, and someone is rooting for you. So keep writing!

    - S

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    1. Thank you so much, I thought I had replied to this. Thank you. If you want to talk more, please email me: fansylla@gmail.com

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  2. Thank you for this post. And thank you for allowing me to be someone what invisible ;-). You are correct when you say that black women struggle to write...I delete and rewrite, delete and rewrite. So, here it goes:
    I am writing because I would like to ask you a question based on my identity. I don't expect the answer to be neat, but hopefully it will help me "decolonize" my thoughts and practices of solidarity. I am biracial, but I have been self-identifying as black ever since I was in 1st grade when my teacher insisted that my identification on a standardized test was, indeed correct. I was labeled with my name, date of birth, gender, and race. It said: "Black Female." I have the privilege for passing as white and/or non-black WOC. I have always struggled as I negotiated my colorism with my current realities and past memories living in the US South. For example, I am the token black girl in my PhD program. My experience of growing up in a "poor black home" (witnessing my alienated, uneducated, and unemployed black father struggle against perpetual racism and ageism) continues to haunt me. In college, I managed to find and connect with one person who shares the same identity. We would often go to WOC and Black community meetings. We even created a multi-racial group. But within all of these groups we were never fully ourselves. I know loneliness. I had a community of 1. Could you, perhaps, share more about where you think colorism belongs in the black women community? Do I belong within? And if not, how can I be a better ally? Thank you for your time.

    -TD

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  3. Hey TD. My reply will probably not answer all of your questions but: feeling Black means so many things. It's not coherent or fixed. I am not mixed-race but I was raised in a white middle-class environment in France. I am assimilated to French culture in a way that a lot of other Black Africans girls who were able to navigate in a mostly Black African environment aren't. Plus my parents are from two different countries and class backgrounds. So you don't need to be mixed-race to experience this in-betweeness or liminality. I am Black, but black is how you define it. How your experience defines it. There isn't such a thing as authentic blackness. I think colorism has nothing to with how you define your Blackness. I don't believe my mother is less black or african because she's light-skinned and Peul. She doesn't know what it's like to be a dark-skinned black woman in this world that is all. We live in different dimensions but they are all within Blackness.

    One of the most important writers in my life are Caribbean writers because who else can make sense or describe what it feels like to have a fragmented, incoherent, chaotic identity? Again one doesn't need to be mixed race to experience that. I envy people who take their identity for granted because my whole life is an identity crisis. I'm not French in France. I'm not African in Africa. My whole life is about making sense of who I am, where do I belong etc.

    Acknowledging colorism, privilege never means denying your identity and your history. I'll never do such a thing because it's horrible and I know how it feels like when people tell you your experience, your story doesn't matter because [insert irrelevant reason]. You're Black, even when you don't feel it 100% all the time. You reality informs your blackness, not the other way around. Blackness morphs & changes according to our context and realities. I'm not a believer that identities don't exist, I think they are necessary, they can be a refuge (they are a refuge) but as soon as you feel like they become cells in which you can't flourish, that are not in tune with your reality it's time to redefine or to even let it go.

    As I said Caribbean writers have helped me making sense of all of this. Accept the incoherence, the impermanence of your identity and how you feel about it. Doesn't make you less Black.

    Hope I answered some of your questions, if not we can keep discussing here or elsewhere. It's one of my favorite subjects. Email me: fansylla@gmail.com

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  4. Fanta I love this article so much, I was nodding and smiling on the tube this morning reading this essay because it articulates all the thoughts I've had for so long. I don't accept the word brown when discussing black girls, because in my head brown is for South Asian people, we are black black black BLACK. I totally agree that there is a burden of blackness. It espeically annoys me when I see other black people saying things like "Oh we're brown" because it seems that their ashamed to say "Hey I'm black" which re-inforces this notion that black is shameful and to be avoided, that's why WOC want us to join in the term it's sort of like oh we'll call you brown so you don't have to be black and for me it's like no I want to be black. I love being black and that includes understanding the burdens that come with it and finding solutions to solve these burdens. I feel that if we accept this whole WOC term then we really will not change the stigma that only black girls face, we'll just help their cause.

    Honestly I sometimes feel that as a black woman I can't really have true friendships with people who are not black women because it just seems that everyone has a problem with us and it's not the blatant racism, its the micro-aggression like comments about our hair, skin or personalities. With black girls I can be myself without judgement but with others it's like I have to be perfect or else I will fit the stereotype. Also with the introduction of social media slander against black girls it's like I'm finally seeing how other races feel about us which makes it hard to stand in solidarity with anyone because it's like yeah you're nice to me now but behind closed doors you're calling me a 'nappy headed hoe'. I definitely feel that black women are all we have. No-one really cares about us unless we do something extremely brave like the protests in San Francisco. We can't get anyone's attention to how police brutality affects us or how teachers are harsher on us than our non-black counterparts unless a non-black woman says so. That's the problem it's like no-one believes us unless a non-black woman comes and confirms it our story.

    The only allies I feel I have are black women and black gay men these are the two groups that have shown me the most compassion, understanding and support when I felt worthless because of how black women are treated globally. It's like when we talk about how we are treated some WOC will be like "Oh yeah, well it's not just black women, non-black women get it too" and I'm just disgusted by the selfishness and self-centeredness because when other marginalised groups talk about their pain and experiences I seldom see a black woman jump in to derail and center her experience as a black woman. People truly believe that blackness shouldn't be centered and try to dilute the blackness and make it in general terms for everyone and it's like NO there are specific things that happen to me as a black woman that will never happen to any other race of women because of the anti-blackness that every culture (even black culture) has. People hate to see black people especially black women as the center of anything even our own stories they think we need their help to manage it because "those black girls are too stupid to tell their own stories". That's why I am so grateful for this essay because it is so articulate and brilliant and I think something that many black women feel but can't always express it as eloquently as you did (I know I sure can't).

    I just wanted to say thank you so much for writing this essay and please keep writing.

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  5. We need to shut the rest of the world noise out and focus solely/soully on our sisters. Because the rest of the world already despises us (including the beautiful men that we have birthed, god love them) we need to build and strengthen our global community. We are the power house of this world. The only place we can go from here is up because we've been to the very bottom. Who cares if they call us names it's already being/been done, who cares if we are not included we already aren't, we're already lonely and dealing with severe health issues and depression. So let's rise. Let's pull each other out of the dirt. We are all we have which means we have the best. Let's work with it.

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